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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:54 pm
by Serano
speaking of which are there examples of what needs to be collected for level 80 Cultural yet? be great to get armor and symbol upgrades. With luckky peeps where Cash is not a big object

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:06 pm
by Antok
the new cultural stuff is funny.

the #1 warrior on druzzil now is in a demiplane guild... he spent 3m, bought a full set of symbols to go with his lastbloods, and outHP's and AC's every solteris geared warrior on the server.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:24 am
by Bilnick
Antok wrote:the new cultural stuff is funny.

the #1 warrior on druzzil now is in a demiplane guild... he spent 3m, bought a full set of symbols to go with his lastbloods, and outHP's and AC's every solteris geared warrior on the server.


I wouldn't use funny personally, I would say the level of gear in this expansion is stupid.

Now I see why Sony gave all the other expansions away for free with SoF....they don't matter anymore.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:06 pm
by Wreaking
Plate Tradeskill Sets...
AC HP
Total Eminent + Elaborate 504 1110
Total Exalted + Elaborate 504 2390
Total Exalted + Elegant 641 2610
Total Sublime + Elegant 641 3130

So upgrading your symbols to level 75 from level 70 nets you 1280 hp.

Going for broke with Sublime and Elegant yields you a net of 137 AC and 2020 hp.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:30 pm
by Serano
I was reading EQtraders and there is no good picture on these things yet.

Symbol and actual armor upgrades but couldn't find thru the soup of forums what the actual stats are yet. mebe I should be looking at lucy instead

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:32 pm
by Wreaking
Lucy has the stats aye.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:58 pm
by Lyannah
there are also last blood upgrades so the peeps in the high end guilds will be back on top with gear soon enough

heres one

not a huge upgrade over last blood though, i would have expected more.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:56 am
by Wreaking
Not to mention top end raid gear in SoF is 900+ hp. While Tradeskill stuff with last bloods might get 700's the raiders with all slots SoF tier 4 will still maintain a large gap. As for right now a few demi people with deep pockets are enjoying a leap on the leader boards.

the 75 augs are selling for 300K but I logged into other servers and found the prices more in the 75-150K range. Best thing would be farm the items and know a good tradeskiller in guild.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:25 am
by morbi
Yeah the gear in this expansion is stupid in so many ways. Attunable drops with 320 hp and/or mana and that is tier 2? New players made that the sublime augs alone are 320-330? So what are our raid plans now? Farm last blood and ts items and gear up peeps so we can do SoF? There are a number of things I like about his expansion but the gear is just stupid.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:00 pm
by cliffy
As far as I know we are still going to progress through the expansions as previously planned. The weapons that drop in the group content are not as good as raid weapons, so to achieve the DPS that we need for later raids we will still need to keep going through DPoB and DK. Another thing about the group gear is the AC on most of the items is considerably lower than the raid gear. Without well AC'd tanks we aren't going to progress at all, so the old raids are not obsolete for raiders. The group gear is basically just there to make the group only type people feel like they are able to catch up to the raiders a bit.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:16 pm
by Wreaking
Tier 4 groupable gear is very nice but not obtainable by anyone in the guild yet. I decked out a level 80 warrior in it during beta and unbuffed was over 3500 AC and 24,000 hp. Adding in some raid weapons or weapon shield and that would be even better. Thats with the group 4 tier stuff, not counting what you could have with the best tradeskill stuff + last blood, probably around 4KAC and 26000 hp.

Getting to level 80 and keyed will be the fun part and having the gear needed to kill the stuff in Tier 4. All this gear just makes catching up to end game faster if people put in non raid hours to gear themselves up. I like the gear, makes the hard core grouper closer to raid level, should lessens the gap between casual and end game raider and make group content fun, hard and challenging for months to come for the grouper and raider alike.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:41 pm
by Antok
tier4 weapons only have anguish ratios -- literally >.<

I was fucking around in crystallos last night, 490 hp base drops. but anguish ratios.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:42 pm
by Horcrux
Antok wrote:I was fucking around in crystallos last night, 490 hp base drops. but anguish ratios.


How did you get keyed?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:46 pm
by Wreaking
Key is x number of ground drops plus some key mobs killed.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:26 pm
by Bilnick
I think a reasonable level of group gear would be around DK level, basically phasing out level 70 content.

There is no need to bring the "grouper" up to the level of an endgame raider. How many group missions (pre SoF) could someone decked out in all top end TBS group gear not do?

Sure I will probaly get the L80 cultural, symbol and Last Blood armor eventually as it becomes available on the bazaar, but a 175AC, 650 hp breastplate for a Demiplane level Knight seems kind of overpowered, when the only mob I would have to kill is Zi Thuli.