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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:51 pm
by Naiin
Not one of the global warming issues seems to address the fact that... the FOUR stroke and TWO stroke internal combustion engines are recognized as the leading contributor to C02 emmisions... big industry and wasteful habits aside... mow the lawn... drive that automobile.... sheesh

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

Mahatma Ghandi

If it were easy... we would all do it.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:18 pm
by Aboobaka
What is your carbon footprint?

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:41 pm
by Worff
My carbon footprint was larger than average (according to the website) .. thats what prompted me to start conserving a little at a time until now I'm at or below average :)

A little at a time, means you are more likely to stick to it and improve upon it... if you try to do a bunch at once, you're more likely to get frustrated and give up.

Naiin: Aye we (the world) have a lot of power stuff hehe. It goes without saying we need to mow our lawns.. however there is no reason we need to have a lawn that looks like Pebble Beach golf course 24/7/365.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:51 pm
by Meso
I did my part. I did not mow my back yard last season.
No doubt some neighbors were pissed. :jester :finger
But then i wasn't thinking conservation. I just hate yardwork and the mower being broken gave me a good excuse.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:52 pm
by Worff
hahah $$

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:20 pm
by Naiin
Was just saying we.. the average western consumer can do shit loads more than we already do to control CO2 emissions.. then maybe east asia will fall inline

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:55 pm
by Jahras
Emissions? pft how could this possibly be bad.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:30 am
by Worff
lol where the f*&^ you find that Jah hahah

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:02 am
by Serano
man causing global warming is fake.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:05 am
by Meso
Serano is a republican

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:58 am
by Goofydoofy
Serano supports anything Bush says, like a good solider.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:01 am
by Bilnick
What has Bush said about global warming?

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:39 am
by Serano
Thinking that Global warming is a republican or Democratic issue is moronic.

As it turns out I am not affiliated with any party and 90% of whoever I vote for lose.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:18 am
by Meso
I gotta agree with you Serano.

My boss is a hard core Republican.
The mindless, follow the crowd, "Rush is Right", look after my own pocket and screw the rest of the world variety.
He is constantly boohooing about the democrats like ever possible issue is their fault.

Both parties and all of their partisan crap make me sick.

But it is the reublicans that constantly downplay environmental issues.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:53 pm
by Naiin
Worff wrote:Another idea hehe... if you actually own a vehicle that can legally run on E85 .. you can make your own fuel with an E85 Ethanol "Moonshine" Still. They cost anywhere from 1k-2k for kits and consumer pre-built versions. The issue I have with this is what fuel to use to run the still. If you burn a fossil fuel, I dont see it as much help... if you use a gas like propane it could raise the cost per gallon too high (depending what bulk you buy in). Another answer for that (much rarer) is solar-powered stills. Corn similar to deer-feed would be used to actually make the moonshine, then the trick to making it legal (must get permit which isn't that much) with the Feds, is adding a poison to it so it cannot be consumed. All in all depending on bulk prices you can get in your area for consumable components, you can make the fuel for about $1 to $1.50 a gallon... maybe slightly less.

Add: the 2k version cranks out about 3 gallons per hour .. which should be enough to fuel most familes' vehicles.



If you till your soil by hand, use a mule to plow, and harvest, shuck, and refine the ethanol to EPA standards... you have spent more energy than it takes to mine/drill fosil fuels and refine/consume them.... so really other than subsidizing the american farmer (the most subsidized individual in the US as it is)... wtf is the ethanol program doing... hemp bio-mass ftw.. btw you shouldnt smoke hemp.... its the stems...


Be the change you wish to see in the world.

Mahatma Ghandi