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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:33 pm
by Antok
Spell casting reinforecement adds like 5 seconds to your WS and im not sure on the time it adds to your TS never really timed that.

SCR does NOT effect discs, it adds nothing to WS/TS.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:17 am
by Serano
While for a long time WS has been said to be 3 tics after the start - it is 3 tics after starting. So it lasts 23 seconds.

So I think it starts and then gets 3 more tics.

0 (6 seconds)
6 seconds (6-11) first Tic
12 seconds (12-18) second tic
18 Seconds (18-23 seconds) 3rd and final Tic

I know this because I do NOT have spell casting Reinforcement. And I parsed WAY back when we were doing pop exactly 24 seconds of weaponshield not the 18 it was rated for when I WS tanked The Dragon (RD) in HoH from 1% to Kill for our first try/win of the event (and I think 4 other peeps were alive including a rezzer!!! ) I still have the parse at home I think - I can dig thru the ancient logs to find the fight.

I was somewhere between 62- 64 at the time IIRC - and since I still don't have SCR then I certainly didn't have it then.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:25 am
by Antok
from my experience with war discs, short duration discs vary in length because they ONLY count off ticks when the server ticks.

ie, you could fire WS right after the server tick for 5.99, 6, 6, 6 or 23.99 seconds

or you could fire WS right BEFORE the server tick for .01, 6, 6, 6 or 18.01 seconds.

the time in between when you hit the disc button and the first time the server ticks is "free" so to speak.

I'm tired so that may have actually been what you posted, but meh.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:44 am
by Serano
That might be exactly what I encountered.

I remember way back in the day when I would do ranger bow kiting for laughs - and would watch the tic timer I had and run around for 4.5 seconds and hit sit in order to catch the tic and get mana stand and run. some tough bow kites were won that way. hah. man Rangers do not have the tools Druids have.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:57 am
by Horcrux
I did that aggro kiting in my 50s Serano. It meant 60 mana/tick vs 40 mana/tick and allowed me to kite a lot longer. Though on Aub, I could definately tell how server ticks affected things. Bard songs last, for the large majority, 3 ticks. Thats 12.1 to 18 seconds. Thats a mez that could last as low as 66% of its full duration. Not much could be done to maximize spell duration by trying to land songs at the precisely right time, it was more the knowledge that it could happen was key.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:28 pm
by Murnin
I got that info from Ranger boards. It may have changed. I know my WS lasts for about 28 seconds.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:40 pm
by Serano
heh - how dod someone from Fennin find this board anyways?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:13 pm
by Ranjaling
Antok wrote:
Spell casting reinforecement adds like 5 seconds to your WS and im not sure on the time it adds to your TS never really timed that.

SCR does NOT effect discs, it adds nothing to WS/TS.


Um, yes it does... it adds to both and helps a great deal

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:24 pm
by Serano
what is the length of your WS with SCR? is it longer than 24 seconds? if so then something has increased it.

when I get home I can pull a current parse of mine. or a few current parses and see what my length is - as I won't be having SCR prior to 75 - we can see if it might have been updated with SCR / or levels.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:34 pm
by Ranjaling
SCR3

Weaponshield can be extended from 24 to 30 seconds. Trueshot is extended from 120 to 160 seconds


Also helps on Warder's Wrath disc and on our new WS recourse proc "Shielding Thunder"

It's been parsed/proven on Ranger's Glade before I even parsed it myself. TS is a HUGE difference adding that 40 seconds. As far as WS goes, its not a significant notice but buying those AA's for TS alone would be worth it.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:36 pm
by Murnin
Was looking at a possible move to your server. Was looking at guilds here. Your name poped up from a few freinds I had move here a month er so ago.

As to the TS and add on for that its awesome like R says. I notice my TS bar doesnt move for awhile before it starts the tick down. I didnt know it was 40 seconds though.

Wasnt trying to be a board troll and hijack anyones thread, Sorry if I intruded.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:48 pm
by Serano
well - considering this is one of the least used forums, and Q has retired his Ranger to main his Cleric which so far as I know is just another box of Jum's no harm no foul in the least.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:11 pm
by Uilea
Troll away! We don't mind =)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:24 am
by Serano
Uilea - make us a troll friendly banner !

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:45 am
by Uilea
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