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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:50 pm
by Tailover
Serano I am sorry,

Just frustrating that if I could get into the groups you are mentioning I would get a shot at that gear. Being a plate / melee who can not tank no one wants any part of you. The current way groups are assembled there is no place for us under geared tanks. Tank, Healer, slower, puller, and 2 dps.

I mean this wholeheartedly, I appreciate all the advice I am being given and will use it to improve Tail.

Thanks for you efforts.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:53 pm
by bill
Tail, I go through the same things. The only other advice is to relax and that it takes time.

My most important piece of advice to you is to never adopt a defeatist attitude about anything involving gear/progression/being LFG.

Not that I see contrary, but I wanted to reinforce the idea that you are doing the right thing. Just never give up!

Was just looking at your magelo myself, holy cow is that bracer from Vulak? I miss Vulak.

For a gloves replacement, I would seriously consider ornate from the baz.

If money is an issue, I would make Solusek Ro's Tower a farm spot to grind AA's and get ornate drops. Look me up anytime I would love to go along )

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:56 pm
by Serano
Honestly... ANY 6 peeps that have some kite skills can do the lost gnomes and 69.1 mission. Doing 69.1 over and over and over is mind numbing - BUT --- that plate BP can drop sooner or later.

I always recomend a rezzer for both missions - even tho - you don't need a cleric for a kite group - people are VERY insistant on dying and need rezzes. Take an out of work Pally to serve as your cleric. He can serve as a healer for kite damage and stun/root if things get out of control.

Also there are several rangers that want my leggings and sword from gnomes... so you can get a group to do that once no prob. do it over and over if you want to try to get the earing to drop. The 69.1 again - do it until you get the plate BP... they are KITE missions if you don't think you can tank them ( I couldn't). After those -yes there is a dificulty in getting some missions as an SK if you are not the MT cause some of the missions are VERY tight. This relates to the diatribe I have in the HHK thread about newer expansions make it tougher for an undergeared (vs modern content) Tank from keeping up. look up some of those mission in the 3 zones I mentioned and see if there is any guranteed melee reward you want and then pursue getting a group for those missions.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:07 pm
by Ophidion
If you want, I can solo a (hard) dodh mission with my monk that yields a 195hpish range item with 10 avoidance (which is awesome for 20 minutes of fding and praying that you dont get stunned in the ass). Also, for casters its a 195hp earring with 10 avoid. If you want shoot me a tell in game on either ophidion or clayscale and ask me when im doing that dodh mission and Ill usually catch on.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:20 pm
by Serano
yah sabotage for the win. I am about to start boxing someones necro or SK or monk to get the charm.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:30 pm
by Nairuk
Alright, what's killing you is the gear that gives LESS than 100 hp.. I think you have a +25 hp item in there?

A lot of your stuff isn't even up to bazaar status... so, if you don't want to go to some of the higher end places and pray for rots.. I would say start from there first.

Battle Bronze Bracer is a nice easy buy...
MAGNETIC GEAR.. is great for its cost, and isn't half bad...

If you're under-geared, WoS can be your best friend:
1. The runes sell for some extra plat.
2. Can get some decent gear there: Earring / Blade of Disruption / Shroud of Nimble
3. OOW TIER 1! .. When I first started out and was 65+ .. and couldn't keep up with the rest.. that was the first thing I went to.. you don't even really have to quest for it, just stay in WoS and hunt and watch for the drops.. then once you get the no-drop item.. head to the bazaar and see if anyone is selling the droppable stuff. /nod.

Sad to say, no one likes to be "Bazaar Geared" .. but.. eh.. being lower than that is probably worse.

Also: 1hs+shield > 2hs if the mob is eating you up.. the mitigation is noticable (Unless you have an epic weapon.. then not so much) ..

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:33 pm
by Tailover
anyone know if there is a master list for OOW TIER 1. or a listing of drops neccessary for turnins?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:37 pm
by Ayragon
bah sabotage is so easy, don't need a FD, just run in levi and invis, find the chest in the spire farthest from zone in, plink an arrow at the mob farthest away from the chest, he'll agro his buddies, then run like the debil toward the Hive 69.1 instance zone (up the long hallway). It takes them a few mins to path back once you zone, have someone else pop the chest, then say "leave" to guidian zombie pops, too easy.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:38 pm
by Serano ... quest=2988

BUT a caveat here... if you have NOT done a lot of loyalist faction in the last 12 months - you might find that once you get the drop you need to spend a dozen hours getting faction.

The quest drops are near rot status now and the bits for turn ins are bazaar able.

HOWEVER --- that said - if you are behind on faction DoD armor and DoN missions and radiant crystals would prolly be the more efficient way to get upgrades.

One thing you might find - if you grind out say 6 Creaters (should net you 200 crystals?) You have a fair chance of seeing the shoulders with 41% haste something like 125 HP on them... not great but not crap and slightly better than yours. do some research on alah's one day and you will find lots of neat little places to get upgrades.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:44 pm
by Angyish
yeah tail you should live in WoS looking for a shroud of the nimble. those are $$.

and me and my buddies that do DoDh consist of a war necro shaman and cleric consistantly. i don't think there has been one DoD that i've tanked in its entirty, its split between me and my war buddy. so that means i've gotta be puttin out dps of some sort. the key to a group with you being the 2nd tank is you have to build the group yourself and you've gotta snag the tank first. or else cleric will join be like wtf you can't tank this and bail.

so bitch slap any number of TF tanks one night and inform them that they are tanking for you.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:54 pm
by bill
I'd gladly tank anywhere with you Tail, just say when and where.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:16 pm
by Serano
hmmm aren't you right back at the same problem with waystin tanking?[/code]


PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:28 pm
by bill
No need to be jealous Serano.

Maybe you could tank for us instead, just gotta bring a rezzer for ya ;)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:41 pm
by Meso
insufficient mana

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:24 pm
by Angyish
give him a sow and make the bitch run?