Epic/Quest DKP

[Conan]

Saw some people whose minds were changing one way or another just putting this one over here to see what the final interest is *shrug*.

[Goofydoofy]

It makes no sense to have another system set up for anything.

[Conan]

sure it does the way we're doing it now is clownery

[coldencynikel]

/em thinks Conan is definitely a masochist
You keep putting your crank out there, we'll keep stomping on it.
WTB how long it will take to crush your will

[Conan]

Never SIR!! I"m Cimmerian!

[bill]

you guys fucking kill me sometimes!

You have every right to reserve the opinion that the current system is clownery. I also reserve the right to disagree =)

[coldencynikel]

Where are all the people who stated in the last one, "I voted no, but I think it's a good idea".
(Hey Conan, better schools?)

[Ranjaling]

Should I copy/paste my posts from the other (beta)? poll or just put the links in here? Err.. NM, I'll wait till the 3rd poll goes live

[Conan]

Whatever just gonna stick with DoN"s GL.

[Bilnick]

You dont need DoN to complete an epic.

[Goofydoofy]

What exactly is not working? You post your quest and somebody will eventually get it done. I agree, it isn't working. Not enough raid leaders are helping on this front and not enough people are showing up when they do happen. I don't think a new system of DKP will make any difference. Thats just my opinion. If shit was worked out to the letter, maybe it will. I wouldn't throw a fit if somebody set something up and tried it.

Bottom line, it seems to me is, not enough support from the raid leaders and the members of the guild working towards getting these things done. And that is one of the big reasons why I suggested having 4 different themes a week for raids.

Then it all gets done.

Focus on one thing and one thing gets done. If I wanted one thing, I'd get married. Variety makes life worth living.

[bill]

not enough support from the raid leaders

lol

[Goofydoofy]

Laugh all you want. All I see is PoP raids. Serano tries to get some quest things done. A couple other quest raids have been done. But mostly, PoP. If we had a schedule for everything, it all can be done.

Bill, you remind me alot of Zyzzerzazz. Nothng really helpful in the posts.

But thats OK, I like comedy too.

[Bilnick]

You guys are making too much fuss about the epic hits. Alot of people want their 1.5 epic, alot of people want EP flags, alot of people want VT raids, etc. They all cant be done at once with any reasonable progression. If we took our 4+ day a week raid schedule and made one day PoP, one day Luclin, one day GoD/OoW, and another day epic hits, we would be backflagging until July or August, and maybe only have 3 or 4 people thier epics.

Right now we are focusing on PoP progression to the EP's. We have a ton of mobs to kill and rekill just to get a good portion of the guild flagged so most people can participate in the next focus of the guild. I am hoping the next focus will be gear farming. Whether it is EP raids or VT raids, once we are done backflagging, getting some loot would be nice before we push to Time and beyond.

[Goofydoofy]

My idea was for after our first round of back flagging. If you push one thing, the rest gets left behind. That is a simple fact. If we do two nights a week on PoP, after back flagging and two nights a week on quests or somethign like that, a wider variery of things get done. It seems the whole purpose of this guild is to go though PoP as fast as possible. Maybe this is good to keep our smaller than I would have hoped player base, but it also leaves people behind who need help. In the end, your going to lose people either way.

I see no reason why one night a week for PoP, once the first round of back flagging is done, won't work. There are four elemental planes. We can do one each week. 4 epics a month, 4 DoNs a month and 4 who know whats a month. Variety is key, I think. And it weeds out all the flag whores.

There is more to this game then PoP and the 1.5s will improve our players abilities a lot more then anything in the EPs. As will the VP quest loots and the DoN stat improvements and all the other shit. We need to have some of everything and not lots of something.